Vixea Manplus protocols so for instance as an example I've mentioned this before they've measured people in the military and these are tough masculine men and their testosterone levels in comparison to the outside world is very very low because they work hard they train hard they have little sleep they're in different time zones a lot of stress and their testosterone levels are very low so that's a good indicator you know even physically healthy people can Manplus have low testosterone levels due to these outside influences so you know caged muscle of are always looking to push the envelope and like back in 2015 very early on I set out along with our formulators to create a holistic yet .